biennale.NO curation of participation list discussion ----------------------------------- Zsolt Mesterhazy: my 2 pence worth: i support the point raised by nn simply on account of/ in upholding the most precious part of the call: “The biennale doesn't take place, with works that don't exist. There is nothing special to do.” Therefore, to me “special fonts, characters, etc.” are out. would it be a way to announce any changes by the way of an archive message from the biennale.no accompanied by short clarifications? ----------------------------------- Bjørn Magnhildøen: Thanks for the considerations. Here's my point of view: The biennale's "There is nothing special to do." doesn't necessarily mean there's nothing to do, just that the biennale doesn't request anything The about page https://biennale.no/about.html mentions the use of hashtags people can use (if they want to do something). On the other hand people haven't actually done anything, not even with the hashtags afaik. What remains is the creativity employed by participants knowing the info will be displayed on the website. And that's the question at hand, should we sober up the participant list, and in what way? There are some issues: - people participating multiple times? is that possible? i suppose i can be. it can be seen as an artistic take on what it means to "participate" and the racket it involves. - organisations, galleries, etc.? again why shouldn't they be able to participate? - self-promotion, url as name, special font? it could actually be an artist's name/nick, so hard to rule out. - obviously non-entities, incl. statements, ascii-art, webhacks, etc.? creative use of the participant form, an entangled participant-work or a hostile attack? If it was up to me I'd probably leave the page as it is, with people having different approaches to the play of participation. It messes with the protocols. The biennale board can come to a compromise I suppose. For instance: Distinguish between the main page list and a curated list. Keep a curated participant list in line with protocols: eliminating most of the issues above, and keep the cleaned name of existing entities. This curated list can be linked to from the main page, on the top as Particiants curated list - or at the bottom See curated list of participants And the curated list will be used for future reference, in archives and documentation, who participated in the festival. While the webpage will continue to show the full uncurated list. Would this be ok for all? ----------------------------------- Bjørn Magnhildøen: I've tidied up the participant list a bit: removed duplicate names, duplicate emails. I haven't verified emails, nor artist names or nicks (impossible). I've kept "ascii-art"-parts and special font (if not to censor it, then how to replace it?). I have removed the webhack though. I see the project as part of a net art practice. It's playful and joking about name-dropping, participation, and biennales. I'm not sufficientlly concerned about it being taken seriously in the mainstream art world. I might not be the right person to deal with it I fear. ----------------------------------- Zsolt Mesterhazy: @bjørn: thanks (again)! @nn: about conversations connected to shows, ‘we’ tend to like them :D! if you have six minutes to spare, turn your display into portrait mode, lean back and watch: https://youtu.be/glP6PFkMAxU -----------------------------------